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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 07:19 #96775

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Well you have no other option, same deal with Denis154rus.

I guess not :( Denis154rus doesn't sell outside of Russia either?

Nope. He doesn't sell outside of Russia. You'll have to rely on leaks for that.
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 07:22 #96777

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Well you have no other option, same deal with Denis154rus.

I guess not :( Denis154rus doesn't sell outside of Russia either?

Nope. He doesn't sell outside of Russia. You'll have to rely on leaks for that.

Is there a reason some people don't sell outside of Russia?
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 07:35 #96778

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Heisenberg explained it to me this way: the Russians leak the mods, but we endorse it in their eyes. Since they're his primary business, he would rather stop selling to the market that endorses the paid mod leaking (spreading them in Released Mods), then to his primary user base. From an economic stand point, it makes way more sense to stop selling to us then to the Russian user base since he will get more money anyway.
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 07:52 #96779

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David02 wrote:
Heisenberg explained it to me this way: the Russians leak the mods, but we endorse it in their eyes. Since they're his primary business, he would rather stop selling to the market that endorses the paid mod leaking (spreading them in Released Mods), then to his primary user base. From an economic stand point, it makes way more sense to stop selling to us then to the Russian user base since he will get more money anyway.

Oh. I see. Makes sense. If there isn't anyone to endorse the mods, the Russians won't want to leak it. And if they do, the leakers won't receive much benefit.
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 08:18 #96783

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Heisenberg explained it to me this way: the Russians leak the mods, but we endorse it in their eyes. Since they're his primary business, he would rather stop selling to the market that endorses the paid mod leaking (spreading them in Released Mods), then to his primary user base. From an economic stand point, it makes way more sense to stop selling to us then to the Russian user base since he will get more money anyway.

That's called being close minded and a little childish on Heisenberg's part in my eyes. By doing this, he categorizes a whole community of people as if we're doing something wrong. The Russians are the ones who leak the mods, and he'd rather sell it to people who will leak it, than to a few people who will actually buy it? That doesn't really make sense. Sure, he'll make a buck or two more, but there is a thing called being considerate and fair to everyone, which is not the case here. He sure as hell had the capability to sell with PayPal, as he has for over a year and a half.

I can see his point on him and other people thinking we endorse paid mods. That's not our full intention. If you see a mod on VK or somewhere else, it'll probably be posted a few websites and forums, but that's a small percentage of people. The only mod I can remember having people be happy about being leaked was the Volvo 850 R-Estate by Denis154Rus. I simply can't see how it would be a good idea to stop selling to a community that will pay for his services and goods and have in the past, and then suddenly stops selling them when he had every tool he needed to sell to us.

This doesn't really make sense to me, but I guess that's why he released a Lada Priora that basically no one would like before doing this.
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 08:26 #96784

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LMGamer456 wrote:
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Heisenberg explained it to me this way: the Russians leak the mods, but we endorse it in their eyes. Since they're his primary business, he would rather stop selling to the market that endorses the paid mod leaking (spreading them in Released Mods), then to his primary user base. From an economic stand point, it makes way more sense to stop selling to us then to the Russian user base since he will get more money anyway.

That's called being close minded and a little childish on Heisenberg's part in my eyes. By doing this, he categorizes a whole community of people as if we're doing something wrong. The Russians are the ones who leak the mods, and he'd rather sell it to people who will leak it, than to a few people who will actually buy it? That doesn't really make sense. Sure, he'll make a buck or two more, but there is a thing called being considerate and fair to everyone, which is not the case here. He sure as hell had the capability to sell with PayPal, as he has for over a year and a half.

I can see his point on him and other people thinking we endorse paid mods. That's not our full intention. If you see a mod on VK or somewhere else, it'll probably be posted a few websites and forums, but that's a small percentage of people. The only mod I can remember having people be happy about being leaked was the Volvo 850 R-Estate by Denis154Rus. I simply can't see how it would be a good idea to stop selling to a community that will pay for his services and goods and have in the past, and then suddenly stops selling them when he had every tool he needed to sell to us.

This doesn't really make sense to me, but I guess that's why he released a Lada Priora that basically no one would like before doing this.

I actually see both your point and Heisenberg's. Both seem like very reasonable reasons to me. But I feel like Heisenberg probably wasn't referring to this forum. I feel like all the active participants are nice and aren't the ones who leak the mods.
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 08:33 #96785

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Smorboll wrote:
LMGamer456 wrote:
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Heisenberg explained it to me this way: the Russians leak the mods, but we endorse it in their eyes. Since they're his primary business, he would rather stop selling to the market that endorses the paid mod leaking (spreading them in Released Mods), then to his primary user base. From an economic stand point, it makes way more sense to stop selling to us then to the Russian user base since he will get more money anyway.

That's called being close minded and a little childish on Heisenberg's part in my eyes. By doing this, he categorizes a whole community of people as if we're doing something wrong. The Russians are the ones who leak the mods, and he'd rather sell it to people who will leak it, than to a few people who will actually buy it? That doesn't really make sense. Sure, he'll make a buck or two more, but there is a thing called being considerate and fair to everyone, which is not the case here. He sure as hell had the capability to sell with PayPal, as he has for over a year and a half.

I can see his point on him and other people thinking we endorse paid mods. That's not our full intention. If you see a mod on VK or somewhere else, it'll probably be posted a few websites and forums, but that's a small percentage of people. The only mod I can remember having people be happy about being leaked was the Volvo 850 R-Estate by Denis154Rus. I simply can't see how it would be a good idea to stop selling to a community that will pay for his services and goods and have in the past, and then suddenly stops selling them when he had every tool he needed to sell to us.

This doesn't really make sense to me, but I guess that's why he released a Lada Priora that basically no one would like before doing this.

I actually see both your point and Heisenberg's. Both seem like very reasonable reasons to me. But I feel like Heisenberg probably wasn't referring to this forum. I feel like all the active participants are nice and aren't the ones who leak the mods.

He is referring to the forum. He just doesnt understand that the people who dont buy mods endorse leaking, and those who buy mods dont.

So the people who he is actually selling to are not endorsing leaking.
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 10:47 #96786

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David02 wrote:
Heisenberg explained it to me this way: the Russians leak the mods, but we endorse it in their eyes. Since they're his primary business, he would rather stop selling to the market that endorses the paid mod leaking (spreading them in Released Mods), then to his primary user base. From an economic stand point, it makes way more sense to stop selling to us then to the Russian user base since he will get more money anyway.
I don't understand.
Russians leak the mods.
Everyone else wants the mods.
Wouldn't stop selling to everyone else make us want the mods even more, causing the leakers to not only give away the mods freely but sell them to everyone else?
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 11:39 #96787

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This is exactly why I made a post a few days ago, asking why do people promote leaks! :pinch:
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Re: Heisenberg Has Stopped Selling to the US 10 Jan 2017 15:53 #96792

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What is the matter if we can't buy it then just deal with it or just download a already leaked mod which is not a good thing but thats the other choice if we can't buy it i am seeing huge debates on the forum lately and this is not what i like to see if this continues i may leave because i do not like to see this quite honestly i am actually thinking on leaving as it is due to the TGIF thing and the faked accounts i have honestly had enough of this. :( :(
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