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Real-Life Dashcam Videos 23 Nov 2019 19:29 #113227

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I know you are not going to like this, but you are cycling in the middle of the road. move over! I absolutely hate when people on a bike do this. So I fully agree with the driver of the Chrysler.
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I know you are not going to like this, but you are cycling in the middle of the road. move over! I absolutely hate when people on a bike do this. So I fully agree with the driver of the Chrysler.
Moving over only makes me less visible to drivers and encourages close passes...I am within my rights to bike in the middle and it wouldn't have made it any easier for him to pass if I were on the right side.

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Real-Life Dashcam Videos 27 Dec 2019 04:16 #113458

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GSHAPIROY wrote:

I know you are not going to like this, but you are cycling in the middle of the road. move over! I absolutely hate when people on a bike do this. So I fully agree with the driver of the Chrysler.
Moving over only makes me less visible to drivers and encourages close passes...I am within my rights to bike in the middle and it wouldn't have made it any easier for him to pass if I were on the right side.

Did you read the video description?
State law begs to differ with this take. Biking in the middle of the lane encourages more unsafe passing by forcing drivers farther onto the other side of the road. Given that drivers are probably more hesitant to go all the way over to pass, you are putting yourself in danger as well. Don't let your (false) sense of what is right and wrong lead to unsafe decision-making. You know drivers act a certain way, and you can't change that, so ride in a manner that avoids these types of incidents.

Source for the state law claim: www.ohiobar.org/public-resources/commonly-asked-law-questions-results/the-law-of-riding-a-bicycle-in-ohio/
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Real-Life Dashcam Videos 27 Dec 2019 06:20 #113460

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kas1.4truckdriver wrote:
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I know you are not going to like this, but you are cycling in the middle of the road. move over! I absolutely hate when people on a bike do this. So I fully agree with the driver of the Chrysler.
Moving over only makes me less visible to drivers and encourages close passes...I am within my rights to bike in the middle and it wouldn't have made it any easier for him to pass if I were on the right side.

Did you read the video description?
State law begs to differ with this take. Biking in the middle of the lane encourages more unsafe passing by forcing drivers farther onto the other side of the road. Given that drivers are probably more hesitant to go all the way over to pass, you are putting yourself in danger as well. Don't let your (false) sense of what is right and wrong lead to unsafe decision-making. You know drivers act a certain way, and you can't change that, so ride in a manner that avoids these types of incidents.

Source for the state law claim: www.ohiobar.org/public-resources/commonly-asked-law-questions-results/the-law-of-riding-a-bicycle-in-ohio/
The video was taken in Florida...but long story short I broke no law and he did.

Cycling savvy advises cyclists not to ride on the right edge of the road for the reasons I listed above.
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Real-Life Dashcam Videos 28 Dec 2019 01:31 #113470

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kas1.4truckdriver wrote:
GSHAPIROY wrote:

I know you are not going to like this, but you are cycling in the middle of the road. move over! I absolutely hate when people on a bike do this. So I fully agree with the driver of the Chrysler.
Moving over only makes me less visible to drivers and encourages close passes...I am within my rights to bike in the middle and it wouldn't have made it any easier for him to pass if I were on the right side.

Did you read the video description?
State law begs to differ with this take. Biking in the middle of the lane encourages more unsafe passing by forcing drivers farther onto the other side of the road. Given that drivers are probably more hesitant to go all the way over to pass, you are putting yourself in danger as well. Don't let your (false) sense of what is right and wrong lead to unsafe decision-making. You know drivers act a certain way, and you can't change that, so ride in a manner that avoids these types of incidents.

Source for the state law claim: www.ohiobar.org/public-resources/commonly-asked-law-questions-results/the-law-of-riding-a-bicycle-in-ohio/
The video was taken in Florida...but long story short I broke no law and he did.

Cycling savvy advises cyclists not to ride on the right edge of the road for the reasons I listed above.
Florida law is the same: www.floridafreewheelers.com/index.php/information/bike-laws

Again, breaking the law or not breaking the law is not the question. Based on the countless videos posted, you should reasonably expect to be passed closely. Cycling in the middle of the lane exacerbates this risk for the reasons I stated above. I'm not sure what or who Cycling Savvy is or why they're the utmost authority on right and wrong, but given that they have "cycling" in the name, they are most likely going to give advice that makes cyclists correct and drivers wrong.
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Real-Life Dashcam Videos 28 Dec 2019 03:29 #113471

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David02 wrote: The law about biking as close too the right side as practicable makes an exception for when the lane is too narrow to safely share with a vehicle.

But if we're not talking about laws, riding on the right would not have made it any easier for him to pass me. He would still have to wait for oncoming traffic to clear (or he would go for a more dangerous, close pass).

I just want to make sure that you're not defending his actions, which were illegal.
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Real-Life Dashcam Videos 28 Dec 2019 17:20 #113480

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David02 wrote: The law about biking as close too the right side as practicable makes an exception for when the lane is too narrow to safely share with a vehicle.

But if we're not talking about laws, riding on the right would not have made it any easier for him to pass me. He would still have to wait for oncoming traffic to clear (or he would go for a more dangerous, close pass).

I just want to make sure that you're not defending his actions, which were illegal.

I do think it would make it a lot easier if you would stay on the right side, the car wouldn't have to drive on the other lane and would perfectly able to make a safe pass.

And yes, I think you are in the wrong for blocking him, and not driving on the right side of the road. I would do the same as the Chrysler. Yes I know you don't like to hear that.
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